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PostSubject: So I need a new deck.....mist valley.?   Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:30 pm

I duel with dark worlds online and in actuality, but I want something new in actuality so I thought of something nobody in my school has:MIST valleys. I need a basic build to start with so suggestions are needed, NO NINJASPLEASE
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PostSubject: Re: So I need a new deck.....mist valley.?   Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:33 pm

Hanzo is basically the only way you can run the deck......


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PostSubject: Re: So I need a new deck.....mist valley.?   Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:33 am

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I duel with dark worlds online and in actuality, but I want something new in actuality so I thought of something nobody in my school has:MIST valleys. I need a basic build to start with so suggestions are needed, NO NINJASPLEASE

Last format, was the only way you could ever possibly hope to run them without ninjas. A duelist here (Fluff Fluff) used them well. Till the field spell got hit that is. No way to run them now Very Happy . Well you could always try using stuff like Harpie Dancer or even just stick to regular mist valley cards based around Mist Valley Apex Avian

All in all I think you should move on to something else. Maybe a different wind deck like Gustos or Harpies heck even Mecha Phantom Beast's.






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PostSubject: Re: So I need a new deck.....mist valley.?   Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:34 pm

Like Don said, I ran them last format WITHOUT ninjas and they honestly were doing amazing to the point that I started to main them. I've tried ways to revive them but if you're looking for a solid Mist Valley mix you'd need to mash things together anymore. The fact that Divine Wind of Mist Valley is at 1 limits your power greatly considering it's the only real support for the deck. With 3 Divine Wind, 2 Terraforming, and ability to synchro Ancient Fairy Dragon, I was able to bring out my field spell spam advantage quite easily. I never used Harpie support for it, most due to my dislike for that entire archtype, but if you throw in slight support such as Harpie Dancer, Harpie's Hunting Ground, etc, you might be able to bring some of the spam back to it.
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PostSubject: Re: So I need a new deck.....mist valley.?   Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:02 pm

So if I have to use ninjas/harpies what would be a good build cause I'm not familiar with them at all


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PostSubject: Re: So I need a new deck.....mist valley.?   Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:09 pm

I don't use Harpie's at all and the only time I ever used Ninjas was in my Traptrix deck. Using in sync with Mist Valley itself, I don't know a lot. I tried using Ninja support in my Mist Valley a few times and I honestly hated it.
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PostSubject: Re: So I need a new deck.....mist valley.?   Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:14 pm

Yeah I asked around my school and they said the ninjas make the deck all about apex but when I last dueled against them it was all about thunder lord? And people at my school told me with divine at one I should run 3 terraforming and some starlight road to get stardust to protect or the malefic, is that idea any good?


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PostSubject: Re: So I need a new deck.....mist valley.?   Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:47 pm

Apex is good but it takes ninjas to get out. On top of that, you'd need a Mist Valley card or two on the field that you can readily negate with. If you have no other, your only choice will be to negate using Apex itself and it'll just end up getting removed from the field and wasting your time. I find that Thunder Lord is far superior to Apex. While Apex can negate well and in the right situations can make a powerful lock, Thunder Lord can recycle cards that in some scenarios have become useless. I always like the idea of using Thunder Lord to return a used Fiendish Chain or a near death Swords of Revealing Light to my hand so that I can keep using it over and over again. I've locked down entire decks by abusing Thunder Lord before. As far as 3 terraforming, I'd probably cut it back to 2. Yes Divine Wind is only at 1 but once you use one terraforming to search it out you're left with at least 2 dead draws in your deck. Starlight Road/Malefic Stardust I've personally never tried before but it could be worth a shot if you want.
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PostSubject: Re: So I need a new deck.....mist valley.?   Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:45 pm

Yeah 2 terraforming sounds legit. And when people tell me to use ninjas I immediately say no way, because I don't want the deck to revolve around apex because I agree with you about thunder lord. I was planning on running just one apex and getting him out by means of tributing draccosack tokens and locking with thunderbird and running dark bribes to prevent counter traps. But I want thunder lord to be the boss not apex


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PostSubject: Re: So I need a new deck.....mist valley.?   Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:37 pm

It's a much better way to run things having Thunder Lord as a main boss rather than Apex. Apex in itself is difficult to get out without means of Ninja support. If you're going to use Draccosack I really wouldn't tribute the tokens for the summon of something like Apex. If you have the means you summon Draccosack you'd be 10x better off with that on your field rather than an Apex. Thunderbird tends to clutter the deck up anyway. I used to run Thunderbird but it's really only useful under 2 situations:

1. Thunderbird and Apex both on field and you have a stable way of preventing destruction of Thunderbird by battle. If you can prevent Thunderbird's death, you can negate everything.

2. Summon Thunderbird, activate Divine Wind of Mist Valley, and use Mist Condor's effect to return Thunderbird to hand. This simultaneously summons a Wind monster from your deck as well as summons Thunderbird back to the field. Easy way to summon out a synchro 7 like Thunder Lord.

Aside from those two scenarios, Thunderbird becomes more of a dead draw than anything useful. In my own opinion, if you're not using Ninjas (100% agree with you), don't run Thunderbird or Apex.
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PostSubject: Re: So I need a new deck.....mist valley.?   Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:26 am

Okay thanks for the ideas much appreciated


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PostSubject: Re: So I need a new deck.....mist valley.?   Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:10 pm

Anytime. Always a pleasure to help someone that uses unique decks like Mist Valley.
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PostSubject: Re: So I need a new deck.....mist valley.?   Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:12 pm

So I decided to go ahead and order the rest of the mist valleys off of amazon. I have thunder lord, soldier, and thunderbird and divine wind one each. What other cards do I need and how many of each if I want pure mist valleys? I'd run harpie support too


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PostSubject: Re: So I need a new deck.....mist valley.?   Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:26 pm

I just don't think mist valleys will be able to make it without the field spell at three I've done some research and they just can't at least not anywhere near pure build
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PostSubject: Re: So I need a new deck.....mist valley.?   Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:38 pm

You should actually try gustos they go hard all kinds of syncing and recycling
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PostSubject: Re: So I need a new deck.....mist valley.?   Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:02 pm

Nah, I'm still gonna try to make it work, with my PC in its current condition I can't try builds on DN, so I'm going to order the cards I think I'll need and make the deck anyway, no ninjas. I'm not a fan of gustos because I beat them easily with my dark world deck, and mist valleys beat me last time I dueled them with the same deck, though it was a very close duel, I got shut down with thunder lord, mind drain, and divine wind(last format of course) It made me really like them and I acquired a few cards through trade, so I guess I'm just a little obsessed over it, even if it sucks I still think it would be wicked to just have


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PostSubject: Re: So I need a new deck.....mist valley.?   Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:26 pm

Just a word Helel, don't double or triple post. Just edit your original. I'd honestly keep going with Mist Valley. They'll surprise you. The field spell at 1 makes things hard but it's still possible.
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PostSubject: Re: So I need a new deck.....mist valley.?   Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:30 pm

Same to you Ripper, avoid double posting~
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PostSubject: Re: So I need a new deck.....mist valley.?   Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:31 pm

Oh wow I'm derping I thought it was the same person posting 4 times because of the same profile picture. My bad lol.
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PostSubject: Re: So I need a new deck.....mist valley.?   Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:32 pm

why dont you try a gravekeeper deck or a toon deck or a exodia deck or destiny e heros cyber drags but dark world is a good deck though.
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PostSubject: Re: So I need a new deck.....mist valley.?   Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:41 pm

I hate grave keepers just not a fan of the archetype, toons suck, exodia is way too cliche and I'm not a FTK fan, had heroes got bored with them, cyber dragons same reason as exodia, and dark worlds are the greatest though not my favorite which might get taken by mist valleys because of how legit they are


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PostSubject: Re: So I need a new deck.....mist valley.?   Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:43 pm

Helel65 you have Ben chosen
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PostSubject: Re: So I need a new deck.....mist valley.?   Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:44 pm

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PostSubject: Re: So I need a new deck.....mist valley.?   Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:56 pm

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PostSubject: Re: So I need a new deck.....mist valley.?   Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:01 pm

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