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Zeno Moderator
Posts : 2183 Reputation : 30 Join date : 2013-01-26 Age : 55 Location : Digital World
Character Sheet Name: HP: (100/100) Age: 19
| Subject: Cards You think are Broken. Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:55 am | |
| Hi, We all think some cards are broken. Some we don't, simply because we think they even themselves out. I made this topic to see what you guys think about certain cards . Don't care if it's already banned or if it's not. Here you will figure out why some cards are banned, and why some cards aren't banned. Or Why some cards SHOULD be banned. (Warning, you post it here get ready to be bombarded by at least 4 other opinions.) But...I need someone other than me to start . Any Volunteers? |
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Beelzemon Lucian
Posts : 2960 Reputation : 3 Join date : 2013-07-01 Age : 33
Character Sheet Name: Kill Matronix HP: (100/100) Age: 25
| Subject: Re: Cards You think are Broken. Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:02 am | |
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Fluff Fluff Zed
Posts : 4045 Reputation : 9 Join date : 2013-10-07 Age : 31 Location : Mist Valley
Character Sheet Name: Fluff HP: (0/0) Age: 20
| Subject: Re: Cards You think are Broken. Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:03 am | |
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Beelzemon Lucian
Posts : 2960 Reputation : 3 Join date : 2013-07-01 Age : 33
Character Sheet Name: Kill Matronix HP: (100/100) Age: 25
| Subject: Re: Cards You think are Broken. Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:05 am | |
| /ban Don Patchlingenlingenling |
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Zeno Moderator
Posts : 2183 Reputation : 30 Join date : 2013-01-26 Age : 55 Location : Digital World
Character Sheet Name: HP: (100/100) Age: 19
| Subject: Re: Cards You think are Broken. Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:08 am | |
| This is not only for banned cards. It's cards you think are broken. So....Fluff you didnt cover most of it . |
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Ventriloquist Zed
Posts : 994 Reputation : 18 Join date : 2012-12-02 Location : USA
Character Sheet Name: HP: (100/100) Age:
| Subject: Re: Cards You think are Broken. Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:32 am | |
| Yea dragged down.
Baaaaaaannnnnnnnn!
Reason: Of all the cheap, underhanded methods of dueling. Exodia, burn, stall, deck out. Etc. Fucking with MY hand has got to be my most hated method of dueling. It's very dishonorable. |
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Fluff Fluff Zed
Posts : 4045 Reputation : 9 Join date : 2013-10-07 Age : 31 Location : Mist Valley
Character Sheet Name: Fluff HP: (0/0) Age: 20
| Subject: Re: Cards You think are Broken. Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:56 am | |
| - Don Patch wrote:
- This is not only for banned cards. It's cards you think are broken. So....Fluff you didnt cover most of it .
You want a broken card? Beelze. Reasoning? It's so easy to make it's ridiculous. "o but u need dark monster" Well I can't tell you how easy it is to setup a rank 4 xyz (one of which being Armageddon to mill Plague or Malicious) to make Lavalval Chain to mill the other then Beelze first turn. If you don't have a way to negate the summon, bounce it, banish it, or otherwise, you're fucked. |
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Zeno Moderator
Posts : 2183 Reputation : 30 Join date : 2013-01-26 Age : 55 Location : Digital World
Character Sheet Name: HP: (100/100) Age: 19
| Subject: Re: Cards You think are Broken. Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:29 am | |
| - Fluff Fluff wrote:
- Don Patch wrote:
- This is not only for banned cards. It's cards you think are broken. So....Fluff you didnt cover most of it .
You want a broken card? Beelze. Reasoning? It's so easy to make it's ridiculous. "o but u need dark monster" Well I can't tell you how easy it is to setup a rank 4 xyz (one of which being Armageddon to mill Plague or Malicious) to make Lavalval Chain to mill the other then Beelze first turn. If you don't have a way to negate the summon, bounce it, banish it, or otherwise, you're fucked. - Ventriloquist wrote:
- Yea dragged down.
Baaaaaaannnnnnnnn!
Reason: Of all the cheap, underhanded methods of dueling. Exodia, burn, stall, deck out. Etc. Fucking with MY hand has got to be my most hated method of dueling. It's very dishonorable. There we go! I got one. Zenmaity. I love it to death, but even 1 can kill you... Gives Wind-Ups the ability to SS to death. Combine it with hunter, you also lose your hand. And if your fortunate enough to get out shock master #NoStoppinMeNow. Doesn't even need them to be wind-up monsters. Which would make it slightly less worse....but not enough. |
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Nottu Lucian
Posts : 3368 Reputation : 118 Join date : 2013-02-03
Character Sheet Name: Herenyonen HP: (84/84) Age: 29
| Subject: Re: Cards You think are Broken. Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:19 am | |
| Broken cards eh?
Soul Charge. |
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Beelzemon Lucian
Posts : 2960 Reputation : 3 Join date : 2013-07-01 Age : 33
Character Sheet Name: Kill Matronix HP: (100/100) Age: 25
| Subject: Re: Cards You think are Broken. Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:02 am | |
| 1k for each monster is expensive. it's not broken |
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DracoKnight Leona
Posts : 724 Reputation : 3 Join date : 2014-03-24 Age : 26 Location : My palace in the Underworld.
Character Sheet Name: Draco HP: (410/500) Age: 16
| Subject: Re: Cards You think are Broken. Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:28 pm | |
| Broken Card: Number 54. to OP. |
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Beelzemon Lucian
Posts : 2960 Reputation : 3 Join date : 2013-07-01 Age : 33
Character Sheet Name: Kill Matronix HP: (100/100) Age: 25
| Subject: Re: Cards You think are Broken. Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:38 pm | |
| bs. number 54 is harmless |
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DracoKnight Leona
Posts : 724 Reputation : 3 Join date : 2014-03-24 Age : 26 Location : My palace in the Underworld.
Character Sheet Name: Draco HP: (410/500) Age: 16
| Subject: Re: Cards You think are Broken. Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:47 pm | |
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Beelzemon Lucian
Posts : 2960 Reputation : 3 Join date : 2013-07-01 Age : 33
Character Sheet Name: Kill Matronix HP: (100/100) Age: 25
| Subject: Re: Cards You think are Broken. Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:55 pm | |
| like i've never seen the card. it's not good. useless after the materials were detached. not good atk, can easily be fucked through other means etc etc. just too hard to gather 3 lv 1 monsters for it. i would rather run law of the normal |
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Superion Maximus Leona
Posts : 3080 Reputation : 3 Join date : 2013-09-21 Age : 28 Location : Cybertron
Character Sheet Name: Superion HP: (1000/1000) Age: 2 million
| Subject: Re: Cards You think are Broken. Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:04 pm | |
| effect negation is popular for a reason XD
54 is not broken its just too easy to kill |
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Fluff Fluff Zed
Posts : 4045 Reputation : 9 Join date : 2013-10-07 Age : 31 Location : Mist Valley
Character Sheet Name: Fluff HP: (0/0) Age: 20
| Subject: Re: Cards You think are Broken. Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:07 pm | |
| - Killmatronix wrote:
- like i've never seen the card. it's not good. useless after the materials were detached. not good atk, can easily be fucked through other means etc etc. just too hard to gather 3 lv 1 monsters for it. i would rather run law of the normal
Would it surprise you if I do run it in Law of the Normal? |
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DracoKnight Leona
Posts : 724 Reputation : 3 Join date : 2014-03-24 Age : 26 Location : My palace in the Underworld.
Character Sheet Name: Draco HP: (410/500) Age: 16
| Subject: Re: Cards You think are Broken. Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:06 pm | |
| it's my personal opinion. deal with it. |
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Nottu Lucian
Posts : 3368 Reputation : 118 Join date : 2013-02-03
Character Sheet Name: Herenyonen HP: (84/84) Age: 29
| Subject: Re: Cards You think are Broken. Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:55 pm | |
| - Killmatronix wrote:
- 1k for each monster is expensive. it's not broken
Not on its own no, but the things you can do with it make it so. |
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Zeno Moderator
Posts : 2183 Reputation : 30 Join date : 2013-01-26 Age : 55 Location : Digital World
Character Sheet Name: HP: (100/100) Age: 19
| Subject: Re: Cards You think are Broken. Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:06 pm | |
| - Nottu wrote:
- Killmatronix wrote:
- 1k for each monster is expensive. it's not broken
Not on its own no, but the things you can do with it make it so. Nottu is correct. This card is brokenish, and very much annoying . At least reborn cant bring back multiple monsters.... |
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Fluff Fluff Zed
Posts : 4045 Reputation : 9 Join date : 2013-10-07 Age : 31 Location : Mist Valley
Character Sheet Name: Fluff HP: (0/0) Age: 20
| Subject: Re: Cards You think are Broken. Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:19 pm | |
| But Reborn doesn't make you pay 1k lifepoints. Reborn is a simple return of some monster to the field. Soul Charge is a much better version with a lot bigger drawbacks. Unless you have enough lifepoints to get by, using this card is utterly bad. Drawing into this late game when you don't have more than 2000 lifepoints would be the same concept as drawing into Solemn when your lifepoints are like 1500. Not to mention the lack of battle phase. I really don't see this as broken as people think. |
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Zeno Moderator
Posts : 2183 Reputation : 30 Join date : 2013-01-26 Age : 55 Location : Digital World
Character Sheet Name: HP: (100/100) Age: 19
| Subject: Re: Cards You think are Broken. Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:40 pm | |
| - Fluff Fluff wrote:
- But Reborn doesn't make you pay 1k lifepoints. Reborn is a simple return of some monster to the field. Soul Charge is a much better version with a lot bigger drawbacks. Unless you have enough lifepoints to get by, using this card is utterly bad. Drawing into this late game when you don't have more than 2000 lifepoints would be the same concept as drawing into Solemn when your lifepoints are like 1500. Not to mention the lack of battle phase. I really don't see this as broken as people think.
True, but at least Reborn can't set up as many plays as this can. Even though, I do admit, It sets up a ton of them . Imagine if you could battle phase though.... |
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Fluff Fluff Zed
Posts : 4045 Reputation : 9 Join date : 2013-10-07 Age : 31 Location : Mist Valley
Character Sheet Name: Fluff HP: (0/0) Age: 20
| Subject: Re: Cards You think are Broken. Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:05 am | |
| If you were allowed to battle phase THEN I'd say this card is broken. Hell you just need to bring back a few vanilla beaters and you would have game at that point. This card can setup good plays nonetheless. If you're desperate to get rid of something like Beelze and neither you or your opponent have many good plays left at least this can be a 1 card Silent Honor Ark. That's not to say that this wouldn't be as easy to Torrential Tribute. I mean this card can also setup Quasar in place of Rekindling now in Lavals but you're talking 4-5k lifepoints for it. I just don't see how this card is worth it. |
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Zeno Moderator
Posts : 2183 Reputation : 30 Join date : 2013-01-26 Age : 55 Location : Digital World
Character Sheet Name: HP: (100/100) Age: 19
| Subject: Re: Cards You think are Broken. Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:16 am | |
| - Fluff Fluff wrote:
- If you were allowed to battle phase THEN I'd say this card is broken. Hell you just need to bring back a few vanilla beaters and you would have game at that point. This card can setup good plays nonetheless. If you're desperate to get rid of something like Beelze and neither you or your opponent have many good plays left at least this can be a 1 card Silent Honor Ark. That's not to say that this wouldn't be as easy to Torrential Tribute. I mean this card can also setup Quasar in place of Rekindling now in Lavals but you're talking 4-5k lifepoints for it. I just don't see how this card is worth it.
Decks that can skip 1 turn of a battle phase can use it to simply keep field advantage. Also, if you have quasar and your opponent has nothing good enough to stop you, this card helps a ton for that. Torrential is limited, so it's not a good idea for this really....(But i always seem to have it around when they draw into it.) |
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Fluff Fluff Zed
Posts : 4045 Reputation : 9 Join date : 2013-10-07 Age : 31 Location : Mist Valley
Character Sheet Name: Fluff HP: (0/0) Age: 20
| Subject: Re: Cards You think are Broken. Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:27 am | |
| Tbh I think Torrential Tribute is going to come off the limited list. That or people are gonna start maining Needle Ceiling. Between all of this mass summoning going around between this card and Pendulum summoning I can see cards like that becoming common. It helps setup a field sure, but is it worth half your lp or more? I really don't think so. If that plan fails you have NOTHING to fall back on prob + your lifepoints will be significantly drained. |
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Zeno Moderator
Posts : 2183 Reputation : 30 Join date : 2013-01-26 Age : 55 Location : Digital World
Character Sheet Name: HP: (100/100) Age: 19
| Subject: Re: Cards You think are Broken. Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:48 am | |
| - Fluff Fluff wrote:
- Tbh I think Torrential Tribute is going to come off the limited list. That or people are gonna start maining Needle Ceiling. Between all of this mass summoning going around between this card and Pendulum summoning I can see cards like that becoming common. It helps setup a field sure, but is it worth half your lp or more? I really don't think so. If that plan fails you have NOTHING to fall back on prob + your lifepoints will be significantly drained.
Same, we are gonna need it eventually. OR we will have to lock down Special summons. Which.... I doubt will happen . |
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