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Sasukat Moderator
Posts : 355 Reputation : 1 Join date : 2013-10-06 Age : 29 Location : The great land of Canadia
Character Sheet Name: HP: (100/100) Age:
| Subject: New Testing Rubric Thu Mar 20, 2014 4:21 pm | |
| Banned decks: Alt-win conditions and meta (Current Meta: Geargia and Mermails).
All tests are conducted using TCG format
Testers are: C.C. Pride DarkSoul Sasukat Hero
Tester Name (Deck) v.s Testee Name (Deck)
Match Results: x/4: +2 for each win. Bonus +2 if went 2-0
Use of Cards x/20: How well did the testee use their cards? A duelist must be able to make the best of the cards they have, and as such that's what this section is.
Duel Control: x/15: Rate the amount of control the testee held during the match. Were they able to make comebacks? Or did you hold control for the entire match?
Creativity: x/5 Did their deck have cool techs that seperated it from other decks like it? Was it a type of deck you don't see often? Or was it a cut and paste copy of most decks like it, and a deck everyone uses?
Attitude: x/2: Did they keep a good attitude throughout the test, or did they argue at every turn?
Ruling Knowlege: x/16: 8 questions about rulings, each worth 2 points.
Concentration and Misplays: x/8: Did the testee pay attention to the duel, or were they constantly asking what you just did, or forgetting effects? Did they play well, or did they make mistakes when using effects?
Deck Build: x/20: How good was the build of their deck? Was it able to work well towards a win condition, or was it not able to do much? Was it consistant? Did it actually work?
Side Deck: x/10: How good was their side deck? Did it look like it could handle anything the deck would suffer against? How well did they side against you? If there was nothing in their side to help against your deck, than that is a problem unless they have a reason not to.
Total points: x/100
Slifer Red = 0-65
Ra Yellow = 66 - 89
Obelisk Blue = 90 - 100
Last edited by Sasukat on Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:52 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Nottu Lucian
Posts : 3368 Reputation : 118 Join date : 2013-02-03
Character Sheet Name: Herenyonen HP: (84/84) Age: 29
| Subject: Re: New Testing Rubric Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:37 pm | |
| So we are back to the old setup again. |
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Potato Lucian
Posts : 580 Reputation : 7 Join date : 2013-05-05
| Subject: Re: New Testing Rubric Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:44 pm | |
| I told you to remove attitude @_@ put the points to concentration. |
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Amaterasu Moderator
Posts : 4394 Reputation : 13 Join date : 2013-08-31 Location : Hokage Mansion
Character Sheet Name: HP: (100/100) Age:
| Subject: Re: New Testing Rubric Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:15 pm | |
| - PimpinEveryNubInSlifer wrote:
- I told you to remove attitude @_@ put the points to concentration.
Too bad .-. Good attitude needs to be promoted to make members friendly. |
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Evil Leona
Posts : 1472 Reputation : 39 Join date : 2012-11-11 Age : 110 Location : The void
| Subject: Re: New Testing Rubric Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:26 am | |
| You shouldn't AWARD points for attitude though. Simply deduct some if they are dick-faces, otherwise it shouldn't impact the score. |
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Pride Moderator
Posts : 1390 Reputation : 12 Join date : 2013-05-23 Age : 27 Location : A Galaxy Far, Far Away
Character Sheet Name: HP: (0/0) Age:
| Subject: Re: New Testing Rubric Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:42 am | |
| What... I love the tier system.. We made such a big deal out of it, and then this.. Mer.. |
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Evil Leona
Posts : 1472 Reputation : 39 Join date : 2012-11-11 Age : 110 Location : The void
| Subject: Re: New Testing Rubric Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:44 am | |
| Meh. Neither is superior to the other. They both have equal faults and strengths. |
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Amaterasu Moderator
Posts : 4394 Reputation : 13 Join date : 2013-08-31 Location : Hokage Mansion
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| Subject: Re: New Testing Rubric Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:48 am | |
| Both are pretty much the same but having one test makes the job easier for testers. Plus are Ra rubric was waay to generous, it was like most academy's slifer standards. |
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Nikosan Lucian
Posts : 78 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2013-10-15 Location : Bulgaria
| Subject: Re: New Testing Rubric Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:54 am | |
| Oooh i demand a free retest |
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Amaterasu Moderator
Posts : 4394 Reputation : 13 Join date : 2013-08-31 Location : Hokage Mansion
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| Subject: Re: New Testing Rubric Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:58 pm | |
| - Nikosan wrote:
- Oooh i demand a free retest
You want to be in slifer?Sure, pay in the shop and contact a tester. |
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Potato Lucian
Posts : 580 Reputation : 7 Join date : 2013-05-05
| Subject: Re: New Testing Rubric Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:00 pm | |
| Rly though, if im testing an asshole you're definetly going to see it in the grading. There's no need to have attitude. |
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Superion Maximus Leona
Posts : 3080 Reputation : 3 Join date : 2013-09-21 Age : 28 Location : Cybertron
Character Sheet Name: Superion HP: (1000/1000) Age: 2 million
| Subject: Re: New Testing Rubric Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:35 am | |
| - Quote :
- Banned decks: Alt-win conditions and meta (Current Meta: Fire Fists and Mermails).
i would suggest updating that |
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iAmFlam3ezZ Leona
Posts : 59 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2014-01-14 Age : 28 Location : United States
| Subject: Re: New Testing Rubric Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:36 am | |
| - Superion Maximus wrote:
- Quote :
- Banned decks: Alt-win conditions and meta (Current Meta: Fire Fists and Mermails).
i would suggest updating that I would suggest waiting for the new format to start. |
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Superion Maximus Leona
Posts : 3080 Reputation : 3 Join date : 2013-09-21 Age : 28 Location : Cybertron
Character Sheet Name: Superion HP: (1000/1000) Age: 2 million
| Subject: Re: New Testing Rubric Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:52 am | |
| - iAmFlam3ezZ wrote:
- Superion Maximus wrote:
- Quote :
- Banned decks: Alt-win conditions and meta (Current Meta: Fire Fists and Mermails).
i would suggest updating that
I would suggest waiting for the new format to start. theres always a format to be updated to XD |
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IceKing Lucian
Posts : 7 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2014-01-31 Age : 26
| Subject: Re: New Testing Rubric Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:51 pm | |
| Geargia and mermails ? Should be geargia and HAT |
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C.C. Admin
Posts : 1492 Reputation : 18 Join date : 2013-05-29 Age : 32 Location : At the beginning.
Character Sheet Name: C.C. HP: (100/100) Age: 1474
| Subject: Re: New Testing Rubric Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:59 pm | |
| I have several things that I think aren't proper with this. Agreed, there shouldn't be banned Decks. Also, the results of the Match should not be in question here. It does not have anything to do with a persons skill if they win or lose. There are parts concerning the Match up [Evilswarm vs Madolche or Chaos Dragons vs Evilswarm] and luck of the draw. This should not be parts of the judging. |
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Pride Moderator
Posts : 1390 Reputation : 12 Join date : 2013-05-23 Age : 27 Location : A Galaxy Far, Far Away
Character Sheet Name: HP: (0/0) Age:
| Subject: Re: New Testing Rubric Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:20 am | |
| I think the user should play whatever they're best at.
Then the tester can judge them based on things like, how many people play this deck? Is this a deck that can be looked up easily? Is this deck easier or harder to use?
This is going to sound dumb, but I know whenever I test, I always wish burn was allowed because I have several unique burn decks.
Now in this situation, I could use it, but I would be counted off for it because it's kinda cheaper and such. |
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Evil Leona
Posts : 1472 Reputation : 39 Join date : 2012-11-11 Age : 110 Location : The void
| Subject: Re: New Testing Rubric Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:01 am | |
| No Pride, no. No. No. One more time. No. Lol. Reason being: Alternate win-condition decks, meaning any deck that wishes to cause the opponent to lose in some way other than depleting life points to 0, cannot and should not be played. They have a minimal amount of interaction with the other player's cards and deck, and what is >USUALLY< going to be tested, is how well a player uses their cards in a situation, and what cards they HAVE. The first can't be judged with one of these decks, because in any situation, the same cards, plays, and end-game are in use in any situation.
And no on the net-decking liability and commonality on the score cuz... must I explain this?
Sorry for being so blunt about that btw. |
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Pride Moderator
Posts : 1390 Reputation : 12 Join date : 2013-05-23 Age : 27 Location : A Galaxy Far, Far Away
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| Subject: Re: New Testing Rubric Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:22 am | |
| Oh yeah, I understand that!
I was just using that as an example! Now I feel stupid, sorry! Haha.
But yes, I would agree with the alternate win condition, but I was just using it as an example for using whatever deck you want.
Maybe something else would have been better, but eh! I hope that clarified! Haha |
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C.C. Admin
Posts : 1492 Reputation : 18 Join date : 2013-05-29 Age : 32 Location : At the beginning.
Character Sheet Name: C.C. HP: (100/100) Age: 1474
| Subject: Re: New Testing Rubric Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:22 am | |
| I agree on at least banning the alternate Win condition decks, such as Countdown, Exodia, Burn etc. But to ban the meta seems a bit too much. It takes skill to know how to run the deck. As such, that skill would be what places a person in a higher up dorm. It's exactly that, which we are testing. And if they don't have the skill to handle thing,s then, well. Obviously, really, they won't get higher dorms. |
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Amaterasu Moderator
Posts : 4394 Reputation : 13 Join date : 2013-08-31 Location : Hokage Mansion
Character Sheet Name: HP: (100/100) Age:
| Subject: Re: New Testing Rubric Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:19 pm | |
| I agree. Ban alternate win condition since as Evil said, it makes it hard to check thier skill but meta should still be allowed. |
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C.C. Admin
Posts : 1492 Reputation : 18 Join date : 2013-05-29 Age : 32 Location : At the beginning.
Character Sheet Name: C.C. HP: (100/100) Age: 1474
| Subject: Re: New Testing Rubric Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:20 pm | |
| Yeah. As for the MAtch result for points. Imo, it really shouldn't be part of the points. For above named reasons. |
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Amaterasu Moderator
Posts : 4394 Reputation : 13 Join date : 2013-08-31 Location : Hokage Mansion
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| Subject: Re: New Testing Rubric Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:45 pm | |
| Well that's debatable. I am not saying it should be but all I am saying is maybe it can be lowered. Its still telling an outcome of they played. I mean I know bad luck and hands effects this but stuff like that always happens. If you go into a tourny and lose, you can't say "Oh, I had a bad hand". Your deck should be consistent enough to win or you should side better or even if you lose game 1, try and win the other 2 games. |
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Evil Leona
Posts : 1472 Reputation : 39 Join date : 2012-11-11 Age : 110 Location : The void
| Subject: Re: New Testing Rubric Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:07 am | |
| The problem I see with including match results for points is it is entirely too subjective. Matchups of decks, as well as testee and tester play a huge role in this. Someone who played and demolished me 2/0 would get full points, but what if Sasu could 2/0 that person? Is it fair that they will get different scores simply based on how lucky they were to pull which tester? |
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Potato Lucian
Posts : 580 Reputation : 7 Join date : 2013-05-05
| Subject: Re: New Testing Rubric Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:01 am | |
| The testers should learn to play in a way that'll actually test the testee then. I test using control decks which will almost never otk, simply because i want to drag out a match and see everything someone has up their sleave. Whereas other testers will play mermails or karakuri and give you 1 turn to do something, or they could play total control like bujins in which you can't really do anything. Good tester will be able to test well and if anything they're more then welcome to fake the match results for the testee's sake. |
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