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Zeno Moderator
Posts : 2183 Reputation : 30 Join date : 2013-01-26 Age : 55 Location : Digital World
Character Sheet Name: HP: (100/100) Age: 19
| Subject: Re: New banlist Is revelaed Sat Dec 14, 2013 2:04 pm | |
| - DarkSoul wrote:
- You guys should get on the chat box Anyway does anyone happen to know why Sixth Sense was unbanned? That card was too over powered to begin with..
I believe it was so people would buy Joey's World. I dont like that card so i wont miss it. This new banlist will be interesting though...... |
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Rakker Leona
Posts : 26 Reputation : 1 Join date : 2013-03-18 Age : 27
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-Kira- Leona
Posts : 442 Reputation : 6 Join date : 2013-06-04 Age : 47 Location : In Kyo's Closet
| Subject: Re: New banlist Is revelaed Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:37 pm | |
| not surprised about the banlist although the 3rd tenki got my attention |
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Gallows Zed
Posts : 929 Reputation : 4 Join date : 2013-01-26
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| Subject: Re: New banlist Is revelaed Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:41 pm | |
| This list is. Terrible.
Newly Banned: Right choices in Return and Sense. 2 incredibly overpowered cards that needed to go. Great choice! Ravine: What the fuck, Konami? You killed Dragons as it was, no need to go and kill Dragunity, too. Miserable descision. Self-Destruct Button: YES! YES! YES! This card is BAD for the game. It is TERRIBLE for the game, actually. Good to see this pile of steaming excrements gone!
Newly Limited: Killing Dragons was the right moves. The deck was overpowered as hell and it was time to make room for something else. I am glad they left it at 1. Now, maybe, those things can finally be used as what they where intended to: Support for elemental decks.
Divine Winds: With the meta game cleared of all the Dragon bullshit, new decks will rise up. Harpies had a way too powerfull combo with this card, so rather hit it before it causes too much trouble. Fine by me.
Magician of Faith: Yeah, fine be me. Don't care really. Not going to be become a staple in every deck, due to the lack of really powerfull spell staples. Dark Hole and Book are the only 2 really good targets. Might give Prophecy a few nice plays.
Spellbook of Fate: Same as Winds. Meta is open, Prophecy are still a very strong deck. 3 Fate was broken. Easy as that.
Sword: Uhm. Yeah. Whatever. The only deck this was used in, is dead. No point in hitting this. Whatever. Konami was making a point here, more than anything else. Wanted to show the players that they still hit broken stuff.
Debris: Yeah. Same as above, really. I don't think there was a reason for hitting this, as again, the only major deck it was played it is dead. Seems like a shot to the head wasn't enough. They tore every single limb of Dragon Rulers.
Final Countdown: See Self-Destruct Button. Card is bad for the game. Not as bad as SDB, but bad enough.
Newly Semi-Limited: Chaos Sorcerer: They need a way too push Chaos decks again, and Sorcerer seemed to be that way. Not sure on how I feel about this, but can certainly give a lot of decks another boost in power.
Lonefire: Was to be expected. Now that there is new Plant support, they needed to make it playable. Here you go, Shinra players.
Newly Unlimited: Mezuki: Fuck. You. Konami. This is unhealthy for the game. I understand you need to sell the new Zombie/Vampire stuff, but Mezuki to 3 is dreadfull.
Plague: Not that big of a deal, and a good addition to Zombies. Not quite as dangerous as Mezuki, so I can't complain.
Kristya: Not sure, where this is going. Agents are supposedly getting a push, but you never really run 3 Kristya. Maybe trying to slow the game down?
Striker: Whatever, not going to change a lot. Nice little support, nothing wrong with this.
Tenki: Yay. Now that Dragons are gone, guess what is going to become the new money-maker for Konami? Bujins. They are getting loads of support and with 3 Tenkis they have fantastic possibilities of getting to Yamato as early as possible.
M7: Opening plays for Hieratics. Don't like. Too many OTK/Loob possibilities.
TGU: Interesting. Maybe opening 3x Guide, 1x Night Assailant engines. I really have no idea what the reasoning behind this is, or how this is going to affect the game. |
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Amaterasu Moderator
Posts : 4394 Reputation : 13 Join date : 2013-08-31 Location : Hokage Mansion
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| Subject: Re: New banlist Is revelaed Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:16 pm | |
| I don't dislike the list. Most decision are justified except banning debris and seven star sword which wasn't really needed since the deck that made it broken is not unplayable. Quite happy that magician of faith is back, its just a nice card to use after a while. The only thing that really annoys me is that they banned dragon ravine. I mean dafuq.. you killed of dragon rulers which abused it, why do you want to kill dragunities. This card was the only reason they could compete with higher level decks. Super consistency. Stuff like this makes me hate Konami. Being an old dragon player, I dont like how Konami bans the dragon staples because of one over powered deck. Red eye darkness metal, Future fusion, Debris and now dragon ravine.... |
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Gallows Zed
Posts : 929 Reputation : 4 Join date : 2013-01-26
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| Subject: Re: New banlist Is revelaed Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:44 pm | |
| REDMD is broken. Needed hit. Future Fusion is broken as fuck. Needed hit. Debirs, meh, whatever. Ravine, I agree. Unecessary and stupid move, just to show how they listen to players when they ask to kill Rulers. |
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Amaterasu Moderator
Posts : 4394 Reputation : 13 Join date : 2013-08-31 Location : Hokage Mansion
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| Subject: Re: New banlist Is revelaed Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:56 pm | |
| Future fusion wasn't that broken when it was banned. Rulers didnt exist and Chaos dragon were the only thing making it OP. When they killed of the 3 red-eyes there was no need to ban future fusion. It was a really good card but it had weaknesses. It dumps dragons into the grave, nothing else. You can chain MST, not only will there be no monster but you can't send the dragons to the grave either. |
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Nottu Lucian
Posts : 3368 Reputation : 118 Join date : 2013-02-03
Character Sheet Name: Herenyonen HP: (84/84) Age: 29
| Subject: Re: New banlist Is revelaed Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:13 pm | |
| I personally would like to have seen Future Fusion return, since they left Stratos Banned. E HERO decks could always use a bit of Fusion power, at least the Fusion-based decks. |
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Fluff Fluff Zed
Posts : 4045 Reputation : 9 Join date : 2013-10-07 Age : 31 Location : Mist Valley
Character Sheet Name: Fluff HP: (0/0) Age: 20
| Subject: Re: New banlist Is revelaed Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:29 pm | |
| Future Fusion is one of those cards that I feel once came back it would be abused like nuts again. It'd be gone within another format. |
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Nottu Lucian
Posts : 3368 Reputation : 118 Join date : 2013-02-03
Character Sheet Name: Herenyonen HP: (84/84) Age: 29
| Subject: Re: New banlist Is revelaed Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:35 pm | |
| The only deck I know of that would abuse it is Dragons. Chaos or otherwise. I've seen HEROES spam it with Zephyros some, but that wasn't the cause of its ban. |
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Gallows Zed
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| Subject: Re: New banlist Is revelaed Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:44 pm | |
| Dragons, Cyber, Heros. Basically anything that can use some kind of overpowered fusion. |
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Nottu Lucian
Posts : 3368 Reputation : 118 Join date : 2013-02-03
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| Subject: Re: New banlist Is revelaed Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:46 pm | |
| Yes, those decks utilize it, but in the long haul, it was Chaos Dragons who got it banned with their ridiculous plays made off of it. |
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Gallows Zed
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| Subject: Re: New banlist Is revelaed Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:57 pm | |
| That is true, yes. And it would happen again, if it wasn't banned. Chaos Dragons are still a viable deck. Not close to their former glory, but still good. Future Fusion would be too strong. |
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Nottu Lucian
Posts : 3368 Reputation : 118 Join date : 2013-02-03
Character Sheet Name: Herenyonen HP: (84/84) Age: 29
| Subject: Re: New banlist Is revelaed Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:02 pm | |
| Not if they were do something about Chaos Dragons using it such as ban Five Headed. Granted that will not happen, but one can dream. |
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Blazer Slater Lucian
Posts : 841 Reputation : 120 Join date : 2013-02-04
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| Subject: Re: New banlist Is revelaed Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:19 pm | |
| But, Stratos! He isn't back yet! Why do they hate on my Heroes? ;-; |
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Nottu Lucian
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Character Sheet Name: Herenyonen HP: (84/84) Age: 29
| Subject: Re: New banlist Is revelaed Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:20 pm | |
| Something about Stratos being too powerful or some nonsense. |
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Blazer Slater Lucian
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| Subject: Re: New banlist Is revelaed Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:24 pm | |
| *Emo face.*
I just hope he comes back. My E-Heroes don't work as well without him. |
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Nottu Lucian
Posts : 3368 Reputation : 118 Join date : 2013-02-03
Character Sheet Name: Herenyonen HP: (84/84) Age: 29
| Subject: Re: New banlist Is revelaed Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:29 pm | |
| Its true, he should come back. I do not see why he was ever banned. |
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Blazer Slater Lucian
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| Subject: Re: New banlist Is revelaed Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:35 pm | |
| Possibly because of those who use Heroes for horrible reasons like Bubble Beat and stuff.
No. E-Heroes should be used together, like my deck. |
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Amaterasu Moderator
Posts : 4394 Reputation : 13 Join date : 2013-08-31 Location : Hokage Mansion
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| Subject: Re: New banlist Is revelaed Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:48 pm | |
| @Blazer, I want Stratos too :/
They banned it because they made malicious at 3 and plaguespreader at 2 (3 now) and thought it might make those dark tele DaD kinda decks too powerful. I personally think it was stupid but oh well. I still play Hero's. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: New banlist Is revelaed Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:49 pm | |
| E HERO still work without Stratos, you just have to make good use of the cards. |
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Superion Maximus Leona
Posts : 3080 Reputation : 3 Join date : 2013-09-21 Age : 28 Location : Cybertron
Character Sheet Name: Superion HP: (1000/1000) Age: 2 million
| Subject: Re: New banlist Is revelaed Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:27 am | |
| well now on lim is gonna be a constant side of mine |
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Nottu Lucian
Posts : 3368 Reputation : 118 Join date : 2013-02-03
Character Sheet Name: Herenyonen HP: (84/84) Age: 29
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-Kira- Leona
Posts : 442 Reputation : 6 Join date : 2013-06-04 Age : 47 Location : In Kyo's Closet
| Subject: Re: New banlist Is revelaed Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:39 pm | |
| blazer its because everyone fears heros~
and you guys dragons arnt dead u forget about chaos dragons those r back now |
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