First topic message reminder :

Here's my current build
Monsters
3x judgment dragon
3x lumina, lightsworn summoner
2x wulf, lightsworn beast
2x lyla, lightsworn sorceress
2x ryokan, lightsworn hunter
1x ehren, lightsworn monk
1x Garoth, lightsworn warrior
1x aurkus, lightsworn Druid
1x celestia, lightsworn angel
1x jain, lightsworn paladin
1x shining angel
1x lightray Daedalus
1x lightray diabolos
1x honest
2x card trooper
3x necro gardna
1x bacon saver
1x gorz, the emissary of darkness
Traps
1x breakthrough skill
2x beckoning light
Spells
3x solar recharge
1x charge of the light brigade
1x reasoning
3x monster reincarnation
1x dark hole
Extra deck
1x number 20: giga-brilliant
1x number39: utopia
1x leviair the sea dragon
1x wind-up zenmaines

I respectfully disagree

Magi has changed my mind on Lumina. you should run 3.

But, also two trag.

Magi! They lost the battle. They can't find a legit reason to not run Trag.

If I mill trag it's dead yes it can protect me in other ways but if I have very few cards in hand it's also dead on the field, I'm not running tuners I tell the new support so I don't need to sync or xyz with it I mill my attack negaters and use lumina eff to mAke leviair and recycle my attack negaters so no need for trag in my opinion, and about throwing Jd out first turn I only use Jd when I know I'm guna FTK/OTK, not disagreeing with your point trag is good with them but my techniques with the deck just doesn't call for trag

Okay if I decide through testing that trago can be replaced by something I think helps the deck even more, isn't that all the reason I need? You kiss ass

Trag can "brain control" - Magi
Trag can Copy levels.
Trag can gain attack for each card in your hand.

I'm not saying your wrong I'm just tired of everybody using tragodia in every deck they have(unless that's just in my area) when I feel something more original would suit better

Helel65 wrote:

I'm not saying your wrong I'm just tired of everybody using tragodia in every deck they have(unless that's just in my area) when I feel something more original would suit better

And what "originality" would you put in, in place of trag?

Idk something to keep JD protected I guess

Helel65 wrote:

Idk something to keep JD protected I guess

Find me a card that protect JD -.-

dandylion is so broken in this deck them tokens make otks

I am not say that either. I'm simply saying Trag can help with plays. Smaller version of big eye and helps defend your life points from opponent attacking.

Exactly. Trag is amazing in ls. <3

i honestly woudnt run trag if i played this .Ive been running into nonstop lightsworns on dn and the builds which focused on just getting 3 jds and otking are alot faster and more effective then ones which had cards that slowed them down and gave me chances to make plays . Your more then likely to mill trag then draw it and even if it stops an attack. it will stay dead in your hand till i do damage or it can be milled instead of somthing useful which can only make jd's condition even harder to fulfill. And its big eye condition will mainly only ever hit a lv 4,3 or 2 unless your willing to discard somthing along the lines of one of the main boss monsters

i honestly woudnt run trag if i played this .Ive been running into nonstop lightsworns on dn and the builds which focused on just getting 3 jds and otking are alot faster and more effective then ones which had cards that slowed them down and gave me chances to make plays . Your more then likely to mill trag then draw it and even if it stops an attack. it will stay dead in your hand till i do damage or it can be milled instead of somthing useful which can only make jd's condition even harder to fulfill. And its big eye condition will mainly only ever hit a lv 4,3 or 2 unless your willing to discard somthing along the lines of one of the main boss monsters

That is why I said small big-eye.

Watch the double post.

that double post is my phone derping and its a mini big eye with a cost

But with Lightsworns, you really have no protecting after the first turn. Now-a-days, Otks are very popular. and you have to depend on trag/gorz etc/

protection is importent but only if it dosnt slow the deck down enough to a point were your opponent gets more turns thus more chances and resources to counter you or win the times ive seen tragoedia played i would just steal it with dark knight or run over it cus in a losing situation its going to be low on atk