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Despite the fact that I am unranked and wouldn't mind TOO much being sent straight to Slifer Red, from an unbiased standpoint, I actually will have to argue in the negative against a very ingenious idea on your part, which I hope you will appreciate even if you don't agree.

This idea is good on a surface level, as it seems to mean all students will be treated as equals, and that it will increase motivation to work hard here instead of lazing around once Obelisk Blue Rank has been obtained.

However, for my initial argument, I will point out the incredible truth in your cons section that activity would be likely to decline rather than increase. I don't think the Ra's would mind much, but a significant number of Blues, especially the ones who have already worked their way up from lower dorms, would be not only miffed but probably be offended by this. Although I don't support any of them looking down on those of lower rank, it's equally unpleasant to have your potentially hard-earned rank from you when you haven't done anything wrong; more on this point later.

In counteraction of my previous argument, there is of course the fact that if a Duelist is truly worthy of the Obelisk Blue Dorm it will only take them 2 weeks to a month to re-acquire their rank with hard work. However, this brings up another issue all of its own; it would immensely compound our already staggering issue getting people tested, as now every single person who has scored higher than Red at this point is going to want re-testing, most likely all around the same timeframes since they'll be turning in assignments and earning points/retakes at roughly the same rate. We don't have enough testers for that kind of schedule in general, but we definitely don't have enough ACTIVE testers (and from what I've seen, teachers) to keep up with that at all.

My last point, tying into the first one, is about Obelisk Blues obtaining and maintaining their ranks. Obelisk Blue students have shown that they have the skill, talent, creativity, and determination to reach that dorm. I can't imagine I'll get an argument on this one, since I have faith that the testing system is properly set up so that those ARE requirements to get into Blue. Quite frankly, lowering Blue-level students to Slifer Red dorm is a waste of their time, and will likely both cause resentment from them, and even worse, slow down their own personal learning process.

A good alternative here would be to give each of the dorms different assignments, based on that dorm's relative skill level. For example, Slifer Red dorm would be doing what it does now; studying broad and important topics such as Swarming and Deck Consistency so that these players can learn the rules and strategies and get on their feet. Obelisk Blue students, on the other hand, already know about these things and how important they are like the back of their hands, and making them do assignments based on them would be boring and a waste of time that could be spent on important studies. For example, they could instead be receiving more specific assignments reflecting what they still have to learn, such as research projects about the proper usage and counters of certain cards and archetypes and which Decks they have synergy with.

Remember what I said before about the Blues doing something wrong? A great way we could increase the activity of Blue students without lowering their rank and making them work to get back what they already earned, is to require that if they don't turn in or score well enough on their assignments, they'll be dropped a rank. If they specifically tell the higher-ups ahead of time that they'll be gone due to a legitimate reason, then of course they won't be tanked for not turning things in; but if they simply laze off the assignments, they don't deserve their ranks, and should be dropped to somewhere where they can receive proper discipline on the "determination" aspect of being part of this academy.

Sorry if I seem a bit too nerdy for this, but I wanted to express my beliefs, so here you have it. Take it, look through it, do what you will with it. Glad I could contribute, yada yada XD

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ppssss(thats my answear)

DaMadDawgRichKid wrote:

Eh, y'know, I ain't got the first inkling of an idea how this Academy used to be or how stuff all used to work here, but eh, I gotta say this is a mighty fine idea. What could be the harm? Sure, some people may leave, but they were just sore losers and didn't deserve the rank for real. 'Sides, if everybody be doing the same lessons and all, we don't gotta worry about "some people" gettin' on their high horses and showin us little people how it's done all rude-like. I guess that could potentially happen even more if everybody's gettin down on the same assignments and one guy's posting some amazing five-page paragraph of win and correctness, but that guy will be back in Blue soon enough anyway so it's really a temporary problem. I figure this will help too since apparently some people got their ranks back when the tests were all screwy and stuff, so this could correct their rank. And like I was saying with the big guys and the little guys, the better players could, like, give the players who aren't as good yet examples and maybe tips and stuff so everybody's getting a little better. Y'know something? Whether or not this goes through, I got a little reccomendation to include to you guys up there on the big daddy seats, even though I'm kinda new and maybe speaking sorta out of term. Maybe you could try co-operative class assignments, and maybe have the Blues and Yellows have occasional projects involving creating their own lessons for one of the lower dorms so that all that good learning can get spread around a bit, and maybe keep some people from getting all superior because we're all helping each other out instead of the big guys cutting themselves off from the school. Well, just my thoughts. Peace

Brilliant!

I support this idea. It would put me where I belong as a duelest. I can duel rather well but I suck ass at rulings. It would give me the chance to learn properly.

On another note, the testing system is still valid guy, it just means you have to do the classwork to get it, initiating a "process" to get to it. Its kind of like graduating and taking a final exam to where you are at. I like this idea, but I wish we would've have thought of this and implemented the idea. The only problem is, I don't want people leaving as this was a thing we discussed a couple of months ago as we stated before. We have a lack of good testers, good teachers, and people willing to keep up with their job instead of doing it maybe once or two times. Sorry, but I don't accept anyone as the standards are high. Probably higher than what I do at times. Let's face it, the people who are good, even myself either A. have lives or B. consumed with Team efforts in War Duels involving DN all the time. Constantly testing, in a constantly growing academy will be rough for them. On the note of people who have worked hard for blue: There aren't that many active blues to begin with that are non-staff. Even with that being said, we just got a couple of blues like CalmWind and DragonValentine, but sometimes I wonder if some new blues should legitimately be blue. Most of the blues tested under the old system are just inactive. When do you ever see a Ra yellow on chat? xD You only see nottu and maybe a couple of new ra coming on like Yubel every now and then. I am kinda happy that we were able to almost get an upkeep of the real academy outlook as we have more slifers, and leaning on the trend of less yellows and less blues. At most if anyone isn't a blue, and made blue it was the tester not being able to win the match (because thats the only way you can get blue is by winning the match). Let's keep it real. There are only a couple of blues who legitimately had to actually work hard for that blue rank. If it wasn't the tester being a challenge, it was the testee getting everything he needed for the game, and at the time everything else seemed right. If its not that, its tester mistakes, and I'm going to be real, I do make small mistakes when grading, such as my testee "siding d-hole against frog lancers", when after making the results realizing that isnt "an optimal thing to do at the time". By then its "too late to apoligize" if you know what I mean. These things right now I work to fix, and I hope the people voting can see where I am going with this. I am very indecisive but leaning more on the proposal than, keeping it the way it is. If its absolutely necessary, we can work out more testers and see if this will work out. We might need to stop the "only Ra+" can have a staff position, because how this academy just randomly gets outburst of new members, it won't work out. We as staff don't complain about what we do, but in reality we do actually need help. When we log on chat xD we are already called for something, its funny and we enjoy it, but I just don't log on and you guys find me lmao. Ok my rant is done xD

No work for the Obelisk Leader for a while. Me like!

Taisakuno Shouri wrote:

On another note, the testing system is still valid guy, it just means you have to do the classwork to get it, initiating a "process" to get to it. Its kind of like graduating and taking a final exam to where you are at. I like this idea, but I wish we would've have thought of this and implemented the idea. The only problem is, I don't want people leaving as this was a thing we discussed a couple of months ago as we stated before. We have a lack of good testers, good teachers, and people willing to keep up with their job instead of doing it maybe once or two times. Sorry, but I don't accept anyone as the standards are high. Probably higher than what I do at times. Let's face it, the people who are good, even myself either A. have lives or B. consumed with Team efforts in War Duels involving DN all the time. Constantly testing, in a constantly growing academy will be rough for them. On the note of people who have worked hard for blue: There aren't that many active blues to begin with that are non-staff. Even with that being said, we just got a couple of blues like CalmWind and DragonValentine, but sometimes I wonder if some new blues should legitimately be blue. Most of the blues tested under the old system are just inactive. When do you ever see a Ra yellow on chat? xD You only see nottu and maybe a couple of new ra coming on like Yubel every now and then. I am kinda happy that we were able to almost get an upkeep of the real academy outlook as we have more slifers, and leaning on the trend of less yellows and less blues. At most if anyone isn't a blue, and made blue it was the tester not being able to win the match (because thats the only way you can get blue is by winning the match). Let's keep it real. There are only a couple of blues who legitimately had to actually work hard for that blue rank. If it wasn't the tester being a challenge, it was the testee getting everything he needed for the game, and at the time everything else seemed right. If its not that, its tester mistakes, and I'm going to be real, I do make small mistakes when grading, such as my testee "siding d-hole against frog lancers", when after making the results realizing that isnt "an optimal thing to do at the time". By then its "too late to apoligize" if you know what I mean. These things right now I work to fix, and I hope the people voting can see where I am going with this. I am very indecisive but leaning more on the proposal than, keeping it the way it is. If its absolutely necessary, we can work out more testers and see if this will work out. We might need to stop the "only Ra+" can have a staff position, because how this academy just randomly gets outburst of new members, it won't work out. We as staff don't complain about what we do, but in reality we do actually need help. When we log on chat xD we are already called for something, its funny and we enjoy it, but I just don't log on and you guys find me lmao. Ok my rant is done xD

I like the idea about giving positions to ra and up 1 because lots of people ask for staff positions ( like we had back in the day ) and im pretty sure its here to and 2 that would make not only the slifers but other dorms want to work harder if they truly want a staff position and 3 i agree with this idea since every is talking about how most of the blue guys were tested during the old system was active this should be a chance to see what everyone is truly capable of