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PostSubject: Ventriloquist's Retest Results   Ventriloquist's Retest Results EmptyTue Mar 12, 2013 4:27 am

Match Duel: Cyber Chaos vs. Scraps
Single Duel: Constellar vs. Gishki

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Match Results: 12/12 points
- Tester 0 vs. 2 Testee



Match Deck Construction Total: 14/17
- Number of Cards: 3/3
- Consistency: 6/8
- Originality: 3/4
- Side Deck: 2/2



Match Performance Total: 15/23 points
- Rulings: 7/8
- Focus: 2/2
- Use of cards: 4/5
- Siding: 5/8


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Single Result: 5/5 points

Single Deck Construction Total: 10/13 points
- Number of Cards: 3/3
- Consistency: 4/6
- Originality: 3/4

Single Performance Total: 13/15 points
- Rulings: 6/8
- Focus: 2/2
- Use of cards: 5/5
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Attitude: 2/2

Deck Variety: 3/3

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75/100

JUST BARELY Obelisk O.O




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[19:36:10] Evil : I'm smexy and I know it
[19:37:02] Eren : you still think that evil 
[19:37:06] -Kira- : ur sexy and we know it~

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PostSubject: Re: Ventriloquist's Retest Results   Ventriloquist's Retest Results EmptyTue Mar 12, 2013 4:34 am

//Crying as he humbly accepts this honor

I just want to thank the little people, like Promo and Evil for getting me into this site to begin with.

And let's not forget Mr.Alexio whom helped me get ready in both deck construction as well as strategy to face this challenge

I'm just so honored -Sniffles- been waiting a long time to get out of Red!

To you all! Thank you, this site is awesome, I lvoe you guys and your like another family.

To The Blues, hope to be getting to know you better.

To The Reds, stay strong guys, and don't hate me, I'll always be red at heart. SooWoop!

That's about all, just thanks for everyone's support and encouragement. Home Work really does help! Make sure you do it. Take care, Ja mata.


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PostSubject: Re: Ventriloquist's Retest Results   Ventriloquist's Retest Results EmptyTue Mar 12, 2013 4:52 am

grats on oby vent xD


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PostSubject: Re: Ventriloquist's Retest Results   Ventriloquist's Retest Results EmptyTue Mar 12, 2013 4:54 am

Kudos bro!


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PostSubject: Re: Ventriloquist's Retest Results   Ventriloquist's Retest Results EmptyTue Mar 12, 2013 3:05 pm

He smashed you Evil! Very Happy
Nice Vent! Congrats on Blue! Maybe now we can talk about that Testers Position. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Ventriloquist's Retest Results   Ventriloquist's Retest Results EmptyTue Mar 12, 2013 3:15 pm

I'LL MISS YOU!!!!!! WHY DO YOU HAVE TO LEAVE? WHY? *starts crying in confusion and sadness of him leaving red*


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PostSubject: Re: Ventriloquist's Retest Results   Ventriloquist's Retest Results EmptyTue Mar 12, 2013 11:51 pm

Do you realize you are the first person I have EVER put into the Obelisk dorm?





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[19:36:10] Evil : I'm smexy and I know it
[19:37:02] Eren : you still think that evil 
[19:37:06] -Kira- : ur sexy and we know it~

[19:47:26] Katarina : Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Ventriloquist's Retest Results   Ventriloquist's Retest Results EmptyWed Mar 13, 2013 12:02 am

Only cuz you didn't test me .-. Razz


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PostSubject: Re: Ventriloquist's Retest Results   Ventriloquist's Retest Results EmptyWed Mar 13, 2013 1:42 am

lol wow cyber chaos never expected to see that again.Only seen it one other time.Must see the deck build on this thing XD if its even half as OP as what that guy made its got to be epic over kill.
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PostSubject: Re: Ventriloquist's Retest Results   Ventriloquist's Retest Results EmptyWed Mar 13, 2013 3:41 am

Do keep in mind I was the one using Gishki and Scraps XD


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PostSubject: Re: Ventriloquist's Retest Results   Ventriloquist's Retest Results EmptyWed Mar 13, 2013 4:40 am

ya however did you come up with those decks xD


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PostSubject: Re: Ventriloquist's Retest Results   Ventriloquist's Retest Results EmptyWed Mar 13, 2013 5:30 am

Gishki yes I did, er well as original as you can be with a Gishki. It's and aqua mirror build.


For scraps I have to give credit to Alexio for showing me how to build them but neither deck is net decked.


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PostSubject: Re: Ventriloquist's Retest Results   Ventriloquist's Retest Results EmptyWed Mar 13, 2013 8:09 pm

Gishki can actually be built alot of different ways


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PostSubject: Re: Ventriloquist's Retest Results   Ventriloquist's Retest Results EmptyMon Mar 18, 2013 9:55 pm

It seems we have a problem here:

The decks he used were given to him by Reptar, I consider it Net-Decking and therefore originality would be lower, if not at 0.
Also as Reptar said himself, his Scrap Deck has 42 cards and Vent did not seem to make any changes, so again, his "Number Of Cards" would be lower by 1 point.

Considering that this means a diffrent result in terms of dorm, I want to re-test Vent myself, upon confirmation and statements by all involved.


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PostSubject: Re: Ventriloquist's Retest Results   Ventriloquist's Retest Results EmptyMon Mar 18, 2013 9:56 pm

tis true and i would like either rain or me to do his retest, me just cuz i like to fuck with him xD but probably rain should lolz


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PostSubject: Re: Ventriloquist's Retest Results   Ventriloquist's Retest Results EmptyTue Mar 19, 2013 1:00 am

Um....no....reptar did NOT give me EITHER of my decks...


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PostSubject: Re: Ventriloquist's Retest Results   Ventriloquist's Retest Results EmptyTue Mar 19, 2013 1:01 am

scraps .-. gishki i'm 85% sure i did as well


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PostSubject: Re: Ventriloquist's Retest Results   Ventriloquist's Retest Results EmptyTue Mar 19, 2013 1:22 am

This test will stand. If Alexio has no proof he gave either deck to Ventriloquist, he is innocent until proven guilty. Also, the fact remains he kicked my ass in both duels you two know as well as I that most of our Obelisks can't even do that.




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PostSubject: Re: Ventriloquist's Retest Results   Ventriloquist's Retest Results EmptyTue Mar 19, 2013 1:31 am

.-. they're my scraps .-. thats all the proof i need


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PostSubject: Re: Ventriloquist's Retest Results   Ventriloquist's Retest Results EmptyTue Mar 19, 2013 2:05 am

Reptar is alex, I was unaware of that. Alex DID give me my scraps. He ALSO gave me my scraps, WITH THE intention of getting me out of slifer. He said so HIMSELF...

He duled me, asked me why i was in slifer, and suggested after words I use his deck. He even tested me, you can look up the results, where i used the same decks, scraps and gishki, and the only reason i performed poorly was a horrid hand. When i say horrid. My starting hand was Monster reborn, mstx2, heavy storm. Recycle. So yea. My next draws didn't help either I wasn't able to summon and he killed me in 2 turns. IN THAT DUEL! Knowing full well that i was using his scraps. He gave me max points in originality.


So, whats the point of this? If I'm supposed to be knocked for that, and alex knew it then and still gave me the points. He cheated. Pretty sure that results in a ban from the site. I will fight this to the end. THE ABSOLUTE END!


This means, if I'm going to be knocked down due to using a deck ALEX pre destined for me to use to get into blue, and did NOT tell me that it wasn't allowed, like I'm pretty sure I know multiple people who net deck here...sooo....he did not inform me, and did not inform anyone else when he tested me himself and maxed creativity. One can assume, this was in pride of his own scraps. Which would, as you are arguing, tapering with results. If This entire argument is not dropped, then I demand a retest, given what ever dorm I make, and Reptar to be banned from ODA. I did however, edit his scraps, be the edit small or not.


Lastly. I am being honest in the scraps thing, in fact gave alex credit in my thank you post to begin with. But THE GISHKI ARE MINE! I will not repeat this again. I'll show you guys the deck. Absolutely 0% chance the gishki are alex's. I took one idea from his deck after the new ban list was enacted. And he made the suggestions to me at the end of our last duel. So....that is all I will speak on this matter. If I'm dropped, and reptar is not also punished in at least some way equal to mine. I may just leave the site all together. I don't think it's fair really. Regardless of the decks, it takes my own skill to use it. I dueled. I got the results. And besides...is knocking down originality (FOR SCRAPS ONLY!) and not even to 0 considering minor edits I would in the very very least get one point, is that even enough to lower my rank.....im done. Just...dont talking about this. Currently, IM far to mad.


I apologize if I've offended anyone, or seemed dishonest, wasn't trying to either, I've been constantly straining to improve at yugioh, and came to this forum using a old school blue eyes deck. I think i diverse a rank up for that. I have other decks I've made. Chaos Drags, Madolche, Gishki, Psychics. I can retest with those....but anyway. Feel free to pm me or talk here, either way I wont reply until I calm down, and am able to discuss this matter under a more...calm mentality. Just feel like....


Well...I feel punished. Everytime I test, something bad happens and my results altered from what they should be. Thats enough to make anyone mad. TTYL, have a good day, and succeed in all your en devours


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PostSubject: Re: Ventriloquist's Retest Results   Ventriloquist's Retest Results EmptyTue Mar 19, 2013 2:30 am

not reading all that sooooo i can't confirm nor deny xD


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PostSubject: Re: Ventriloquist's Retest Results   Ventriloquist's Retest Results EmptyTue Mar 19, 2013 9:55 am

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Reptar is alex, I was unaware of that. Alex DID give me my scraps. He ALSO gave me my scraps, WITH THE intention of getting me out of slifer. He said so HIMSELF...

I guess this is somewhat of an missunderstanding. Alex giving you his deck, means you are supposed to use it as an idea, like you did with the Gishkis. Not to simply take the deck and use it.

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He duled me, asked me why i was in slifer, and suggested after words I use his deck. He even tested me, you can look up the results, where i used the same decks, scraps and gishki, and the only reason i performed poorly was a horrid hand. When i say horrid. My starting hand was Monster reborn, mstx2, heavy storm. Recycle. So yea. My next draws didn't help either I wasn't able to summon and he killed me in 2 turns. IN THAT DUEL! Knowing full well that i was using his scraps. He gave me max points in originality.

All I have to say to this is: Alex fucked up.

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So, whats the point of this? If I'm supposed to be knocked for that, and alex knew it then and still gave me the points. He cheated. Pretty sure that results in a ban from the site. I will fight this to the end. THE ABSOLUTE END!

As I said: Alex fucked up. If on purpose or not, I don't know. Fact is, you got points where you should not have gotten them.

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This means, if I'm going to be knocked down due to using a deck ALEX pre destined for me to use to get into blue, and did NOT tell me that it wasn't allowed, like I'm pretty sure I know multiple people who net deck here...sooo....he did not inform me, and did not inform anyone else when he tested me himself and maxed creativity. One can assume, this was in pride of his own scraps. Which would, as you are arguing, tapering with results. If This entire argument is not dropped, then I demand a retest, given what ever dorm I make, and Reptar to be banned from ODA. I did however, edit his scraps, be the edit small or not.

It is allowed, you just won't get a good originality scrore. As I stated before, giving you a deck list, be it via shop or personally is for you to get an idea on how to work with a deck. You did that with the Gishkis, why not with the scraps?
I think you have somewhat the wrong attitude here. Demanding someone to be banned or the argument to be dropped at your will is pretty arrogant.

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Lastly. I am being honest in the scraps thing, in fact gave alex credit in my thank you post to begin with. But THE GISHKI ARE MINE! I will not repeat this again. I'll show you guys the deck. Absolutely 0% chance the gishki are alex's. I took one idea from his deck after the new ban list was enacted. And he made the suggestions to me at the end of our last duel. So....that is all I will speak on this matter. If I'm dropped, and reptar is not also punished in at least some way equal to mine. I may just leave the site all together. I don't think it's fair really. Regardless of the decks, it takes my own skill to use it. I dueled. I got the results. And besides...is knocking down originality (FOR SCRAPS ONLY!) and not even to 0 considering minor edits I would in the very very least get one point, is that even enough to lower my rank.....im done. Just...dont talking about this. Currently, IM far to mad.

You have been honest till now, so I'll trust you on the Gishkis.
Yes, you dueled, you got the results, therefore scores in performance like "Use Of Cards" will stay untouched. BUT, you got 75 points, which is the border between Obelisk and Ra, so even if we were to drop the Originality or Number Of Cards score by just one single point, you'd be Ra. This is not a matter of me/us wanting to drop you in dorm, it is a matter of you just not having the score for Obelisk, so yes that one point is enough to drop you to Ra unfortunatly.

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I apologize if I've offended anyone, or seemed dishonest, wasn't trying to either, I've been constantly straining to improve at yugioh, and came to this forum using a old school blue eyes deck. I think i diverse a rank up for that. I have other decks I've made. Chaos Drags, Madolche, Gishki, Psychics. I can retest with those....but anyway. Feel free to pm me or talk here, either way I wont reply until I calm down, and am able to discuss this matter under a more...calm mentality. Just feel like....

Well...I feel punished. Everytime I test, something bad happens and my results altered from what they should be. Thats enough to make anyone mad. TTYL, have a good day, and succeed in all your en devours

Honestly, you are getting way too worked up about this. If you really think you deserved Obelisk due to your skill, what is there to be afraid of? If you have the skill, you can make it again, anytime, can't you?
So, as I said, I will re-test you personally and if that is a reason for you to leave the site, it is unfortunate. I came here to speak about this matter in the best of hopes, with the intention of correcting messed up results and preserving the integrety of the test. You just happen to have the border-score and if we drop you one point, which is deserved, considering that you had more than 40 cards AND the deck wasn't yours, you just end up in Ra. I don't understand why you cannot accept this, regarding that it is very clearly stated in the testing rubric.


As far as Reptar goes: I want to hear his side of this first, but if this confirms and he gave you the full score knowing you were using his exact deck, I don't want him to test anymore. I cannot tolerate a tapering with the results like that.



Reptar wrote:
not reading all that sooooo i can't confirm nor deny xD

You are a MOD and you are INVOLVED in this. Is that the right attitude to have? You should be willing to help and to clarify and not behave like a little child unwilling to read a small bit of text. You are behaving absolutly disrespectfull towards me, fellow staff, and even worse to a member of our community.
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PostSubject: Re: Ventriloquist's Retest Results   Ventriloquist's Retest Results EmptyTue Mar 19, 2013 4:15 pm

i read somewhat and about the whole knowing i was using his scraps and gave full points, i havn't dueled vent let alone tested him since i gave him the deck .-.


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PostSubject: Re: Ventriloquist's Retest Results   Ventriloquist's Retest Results EmptyTue Mar 19, 2013 4:16 pm

Oh really? You never dueled and surely not tested him...
https://projectduelforums.forumotion.com/t604-ventriloquist-s-re-test-results
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PostSubject: Re: Ventriloquist's Retest Results   Ventriloquist's Retest Results EmptyTue Mar 19, 2013 4:21 pm

i just read that and my exact words rl are i don't remember doing this .-.


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