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PostSubject: Copyright issues concerning Role Play   Copyright issues concerning Role Play EmptyFri Sep 19, 2014 9:47 am

It has come to my attention, thanks to outsiders and our own Staff, that the Role Play known as the DMU, has been to the point, copied and pasted from another Academy. The original was made by Gabriel_Fairfox, who was said, NOT to be the one who posted it here. So until this has been explained entirely by KawaiiImo, they have been moved to the Staff Section and cannot be reopened.

If anyone has questions concerning this, please contact our Staff. We'll do what we can to explain what we can.

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PostSubject: Re: Copyright issues concerning Role Play   Copyright issues concerning Role Play EmptyFri Sep 19, 2014 1:42 pm

One would obviously be mad at another copying their own creations, but they would also be somewhat pleased that it was good enough to be copied in the first place.

I am not supporting plagiarism and am not a fan of plagiarism in the slightest but I am just making a contribution.


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PostSubject: Re: Copyright issues concerning Role Play   Copyright issues concerning Role Play EmptyFri Sep 19, 2014 1:55 pm

have you considered that he's possibly got permission or is the same guy?


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PostSubject: Re: Copyright issues concerning Role Play   Copyright issues concerning Role Play EmptyFri Sep 19, 2014 2:08 pm

If so, we wouldn't have had someone coming here with the complaints of copyright, especially when this person has done so on another Academy before [the copying RP and posting it]. But since nothing has been completely verified yet, I moved it, instead of deleting.



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PostSubject: Re: Copyright issues concerning Role Play   Copyright issues concerning Role Play EmptyFri Sep 19, 2014 8:37 pm

Didn't even know you can really call it Copyright. Technically its just something someone has typed onto a free forum. Even then, the RP uses "copyrighted" materials in it, right?

Just failing to see the real issue with it. He's not making money off of it nor is he outright claiming he made it himself. Its just a for-fun role-play.


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PostSubject: Re: Copyright issues concerning Role Play   Copyright issues concerning Role Play EmptyFri Sep 19, 2014 8:47 pm

You can use the same content, the same ideas, all of that, yes. But there's a moral rule, for RP'rs, against downright copying work. As Role Player, I wouldn't want my work stolen either, so I can easily relate to this. You put effort in something, and someone yanks it, takes it to another Forum, and puts it up as his own. It was literally copied, word by word.

I understand what you mean, I see your point. But I cannot agree with it.



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PostSubject: Re: Copyright issues concerning Role Play   Copyright issues concerning Role Play EmptyFri Sep 19, 2014 8:49 pm

Oh I'm not arguing against your point, just playing devil's advocate.


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PostSubject: Re: Copyright issues concerning Role Play   Copyright issues concerning Role Play EmptyFri Sep 19, 2014 8:52 pm

Playing Devils advocate is arguing my point, just not from a personal stand. x3 But don't worry, I get what you mean.



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PostSubject: Re: Copyright issues concerning Role Play   Copyright issues concerning Role Play EmptySat Sep 20, 2014 12:15 am

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Didn't even know you can really call it Copyright. Technically its just something someone has typed onto a free forum. Even then, the RP uses "copyrighted" materials in it, right?

Just failing to see the real issue with it. He's not making money off of it nor is he outright claiming he made it himself. Its just a for-fun role-play.

Actually, as it turns out, it depends on the forum, but if it was directly copied, it is an infringement of copyright law, against either the original poster or the forum itself; depending on the forum's user agreement, the forum might claim copyright ownership on all things you post there, but if it doesn't, the poster keeps those rights. (This can cause weirdness, like forums being able to require that you receive permission before removing content you produced yourself. Some places do take advantage of that very thing.)
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PostSubject: Re: Copyright issues concerning Role Play   Copyright issues concerning Role Play EmptySat Sep 20, 2014 3:57 am

Basically, the point here is: don't use someone's original work without permission, because whether it's illegal or not, it's downright rude. Whether it is using other lore/content, no one likes a piece they worked hard on to be taken and used elsewhere without their permission/receiving credit.




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PostSubject: Re: Copyright issues concerning Role Play   Copyright issues concerning Role Play EmptySat Sep 20, 2014 8:41 am

Couldn't have said it better myself. Also welcome back to ODA, Evil. Even though its just for the one single post.



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PostSubject: Re: Copyright issues concerning Role Play   Copyright issues concerning Role Play EmptySat Sep 20, 2014 11:58 am

Evil wrote:
Basically, the point here is: don't use someone's original work without permission, because whether it's illegal or not, it's downright rude. Whether it is using other lore/content, no one likes a piece they worked hard on to be taken and used elsewhere without their permission/receiving credit.

He is talking to you....netdeckers.....




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PostSubject: Re: Copyright issues concerning Role Play   Copyright issues concerning Role Play EmptySat Sep 20, 2014 12:07 pm

Gallant, like always, you're making no sense at all. That was Evil's first post in this topic, and this has nothing to do with netdeckers ._.



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PostSubject: Re: Copyright issues concerning Role Play   Copyright issues concerning Role Play EmptySat Sep 20, 2014 12:31 pm

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Gallant, like always, you're making no sense at all. That was Evil's first post in this topic, and this has nothing to do with netdeckers ._.

Ik....can apply to them though!

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PostSubject: Re: Copyright issues concerning Role Play   Copyright issues concerning Role Play EmptySat Sep 20, 2014 2:17 pm

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C.C. wrote:
Gallant, like always, you're making no sense at all. That was Evil's first post in this topic, and this has nothing to do with netdeckers ._.

Ik....can apply to them though!

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It really cant considering netdeckers get their decks from people who are actually sharing them


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PostSubject: Re: Copyright issues concerning Role Play   Copyright issues concerning Role Play EmptySat Sep 20, 2014 2:20 pm

Well, I can see his point though. Net decking is similar to this case, but it also has nothing to do with the posts.


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PostSubject: Re: Copyright issues concerning Role Play   Copyright issues concerning Role Play EmptySat Sep 20, 2014 2:35 pm

I can see where he's aiming, but videos with people explicitly telling whoever watches their deck lists what their deck contains and rps like this have nothing in common whatsoever, other than they are being on the internet e.e


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PostSubject: Re: Copyright issues concerning Role Play   Copyright issues concerning Role Play EmptySat Sep 20, 2014 5:03 pm

Um... Netdeckers generally netdeck from a forum post or Youtube video in which permission is almost always given to use the deck. In that case, I stated it is rude to do these things without permission in my previous post. While it may be your opinion netdecking is wrong for some other moral reason, it is perfectly fine by way of copyright infringement on both the legal and moral level.

And thank you, Sylv, but I check on ODA almost everyday, I just don't have an interest in 90% of posts because they're YuGiOh related or some goofy forum game.




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PostSubject: Re: Copyright issues concerning Role Play   Copyright issues concerning Role Play EmptySat Sep 20, 2014 5:26 pm

Well, good to know you're still around. Hopefully, things may pique your interest again at some point. Time will tell.



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PostSubject: Re: Copyright issues concerning Role Play   Copyright issues concerning Role Play EmptySat Sep 20, 2014 9:27 pm

Well, this topic has changed its subject... I agree with most people here. Even if there is no actual "law" against it, its not a good idea to copy someones work. They put hard work into it, and unless they give permission, its rude to steal it. If they give permission, then by all means you can use it and give credit to the guy.

And about netdecks. People share their decks on purpose so its not stealing. And unless you play meta, most netdecks are bad anyway. I personally think its fine and I sometimes do it, when I make a new deck. I look over a few builds and choose one I like and has my playstyle. Then I start playing and keep changing cards until it has become my creation fit to how I play.


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PostSubject: Re: Copyright issues concerning Role Play   Copyright issues concerning Role Play EmptySat Sep 20, 2014 10:44 pm

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Then I start playing and keep changing cards until it has become my creation fit to how I play.

*cough* ZOO *cough*

SINCE IT'S ALWAYS THE SAME =D


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PostSubject: Re: Copyright issues concerning Role Play   Copyright issues concerning Role Play EmptySat Sep 20, 2014 10:51 pm

Beelzemon wrote:
Hero wrote:
Then I start playing and keep changing cards until it has become my creation fit to how I play.

*cough* ZOO *cough*

SINCE IT'S ALWAYS THE SAME =D

Not talking about Heartstone. Anyway, I stopped playing my Zoo lock deck, I am using control Pally. But Believe it or not there can be skilled Zoo decks (Not saying mine is at all). Anyway, lets go back on topic. This topic is going all over the place with net decking and everything anyway.


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PostSubject: Re: Copyright issues concerning Role Play   Copyright issues concerning Role Play EmptySun Sep 21, 2014 4:21 pm

All things considered, it might be a good idea to just lock this topic now. Announcement was made, people have obviously read it, so locking it before it derails too much more might not be a bad idea.


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