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PostSubject: Age long discussion...   Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:50 am

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So I'm working at a few of my decks tweaking nit picky things. I want to hear from people on the extent of a few cards. The basic question here is... continuous or quick?

Royal Decree v Trap Stun
Fiendish Chain v Breakthrough Skill
Stygian Dirge v Mischief Of The Yokai

Some people prefer one, some prefer the other. The ability to have turn after turn of negation of traps, or just one turn? Negating a monster's effect for good, or just for that turn and being able to use it from the grave? What do you guys think is better? If so, name a few examples yourself or elaborate on the ones given. I myself am personally a fan of cards like Breakthrough Skill and Trap Stun because of the mass amount of spell/trap destruction these days in the game.

What do you guys think?




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PostSubject: Re: Age long discussion...   Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:03 pm

As long as this is somewhat active;

Wiretap v Seven Tools of the Bandit: which would you prefer using?




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PostSubject: Re: Age long discussion...   Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:00 pm

I think I'd prefer Seven Tools. No chance of them recycling that trap card on me.


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PostSubject: Re: Age long discussion...   Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:41 pm

Royal Decree v Trap Stun
Fiendish Chain v Breakthrough Skill
Stygian Dirge v Mischief Of The Yokai


The first one isn't even comparable. Trap Stun is for decks that need traps (so can't run decree), but want a way to stop the opponent from using them. Decree is for decks that don't need the traps.

Fiendish v.s Breakthrough is more based on how important the fact that it can stop attacks is for your deck. I generally run Breakthrough, unless my deck needs the added defense that Chain offers.

And I much prefer Yokai. Can't be msted, and you can reuse it from grave. And there are a lot more decks that can handle being dropped 1 level (Stuff like wind-ups, constellars, inzektors, etc) that run 2 ranks one right after the other 4-5 or 3-4, so stygian they just use the others. Also notable for rank 4 decks that run guide, as they have the rank 3s to go into now. However a drop of 2 is a lot more notable. plus the second eff only changes 1 monster, so there's not gonna be an xyz you can make.

And personally, I prefer Wiretap>Seven tools, simply because Wiretap can never be a dead card (Like, life points wise). Normally if you're running either of the 2, it's because traps would screw over a big push of yours, or some other play. Meaning it won't matter as much that they can redraw it. If it's something like Bottomless or Warning, you're already set up so if they draw it it won't save them. If it's like d-prison or mirror force, you're probably going for game if you're using your negations on it, meaning they won't get to redraw it


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PostSubject: Re: Age long discussion...   Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:59 pm

I'm kinda not sure if I should start running Wiretap over my Dark Bribe though. Bribe has done be some good but at the same time I reallllllllllly don't like how it gives my opponent that draw that may very well be something that'll just as well fuck me over. I'm trying to get into the habit of either using 7 Tools or Wiretap but 1. I don't know if they'll help more than Bribe because no spell negation, and 2. I dunno if I'd rather Wiretap over 7 Tools or not.




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PostSubject: Re: Age long discussion...   Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:02 am

Nottu wrote:
I think I'd prefer Seven Tools. No chance of them recycling that trap card on me.

Depends. If they have no definite way of searching or drawing, then your fine. Honestly, Seven tools is a real annoyance at times. sometimes it's the very thing that kills you.






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PostSubject: Re: Age long discussion...   Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:10 am

i disagree. i'm not thrilled about wiretap. i think seven tools is way better. 1k simply isn't the reason of your loss. wiretap on the other hand does nothing. just puts the card back to the deck






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PostSubject: Re: Age long discussion...   Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:37 am

At the same time though, the odds of them drawing the card you threw back into the deck are slim depending on the situation. Like Sasu said; by that point they'd prob be dead already




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PostSubject: Re: Age long discussion...   Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:55 am

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i disagree. i'm not thrilled about wiretap. i think seven tools is way better. 1k simply isn't the reason of your loss. wiretap on the other hand does nothing. just puts the card back to the deck

BUT they would need to draw it. If they can search it (EX: Evilswarm, Madolche, Shadoll) then it's not a brilliant card. But it helps somewhat Razz and I like keeping as much lifepoints as possible Neutral so this is the card for me.






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PostSubject: Re: Age long discussion...   Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:38 am

i wouldn't choose any. i'm the saving my monsters kind of guy and i like either to lance shit or decree






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PostSubject: Re: Age long discussion...   Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:37 am

Well I like Lance... but I also like Wiretap.. so..





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