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PostSubject: Cards You think are Broken.   Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:55 am

Hi,

We all think some cards are broken. Some we don't, simply because we think they even themselves out. I made this topic to see what you guys think about certain cards Very Happy. Don't care if it's already banned or if it's not.


Here you will figure out why some cards are banned, and why some cards aren't banned. Or Why some cards SHOULD be banned. (Warning, you post it here get ready to be bombarded by at least 4 other opinions.)

But...I need someone other than me to start Very Happy . Any Volunteers?






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PostSubject: Re: Cards You think are Broken.   Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:02 am

BAN MAHA VAILO!!! :V






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PostSubject: Re: Cards You think are Broken.   Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:03 am

I'm gonna answer all of your question in 1 link, js.

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Reasons_why_cards_are_Forbidden/Limited




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PostSubject: Re: Cards You think are Broken.   Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:05 am

/ban Don Patchlingenlingenling






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PostSubject: Re: Cards You think are Broken.   Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:08 am

This is not only for banned cards. It's cards you think are broken. So....Fluff you didnt cover most of it Very Happy .






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PostSubject: Re: Cards You think are Broken.   Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:32 am

Yea dragged down.


Baaaaaaannnnnnnnn!

Reason: Of all the cheap, underhanded methods of dueling. Exodia, burn, stall, deck out. Etc. Fucking with MY hand has got to be my most hated method of dueling. It's very dishonorable.


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PostSubject: Re: Cards You think are Broken.   Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:56 am

Don Patch wrote:
This is not only for banned cards. It's cards you think are broken. So....Fluff you didnt cover most of it Very Happy .

You want a broken card? Beelze. Reasoning? It's so easy to make it's ridiculous. "o but u need dark monster" Well I can't tell you how easy it is to setup a rank 4 xyz (one of which being Armageddon to mill Plague or Malicious) to make Lavalval Chain to mill the other then Beelze first turn. If you don't have a way to negate the summon, bounce it, banish it, or otherwise, you're fucked.




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PostSubject: Re: Cards You think are Broken.   Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:29 am

Fluff Fluff wrote:
Don Patch wrote:
This is not only for banned cards. It's cards you think are broken. So....Fluff you didnt cover most of it Very Happy .

You want a broken card? Beelze. Reasoning? It's so easy to make it's ridiculous. "o but u need dark monster" Well I can't tell you how easy it is to setup a rank 4 xyz (one of which being Armageddon to mill Plague or Malicious) to make Lavalval Chain to mill the other then Beelze first turn. If you don't have a way to negate the summon, bounce it, banish it, or otherwise, you're fucked.

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Yea dragged down.


Baaaaaaannnnnnnnn!

Reason: Of all the cheap, underhanded methods of dueling. Exodia, burn, stall, deck out. Etc. Fucking with MY hand has got to be my most hated method of dueling. It's very dishonorable.

There we go!

I got one. Zenmaity. I love it to death, but even 1 can kill you... Gives Wind-Ups the ability to SS to death. Combine it with hunter, you also lose your hand. And if your fortunate enough to get out shock master #NoStoppinMeNow. Doesn't even need them to be wind-up monsters. Which would make it slightly less worse....but not enough.








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PostSubject: Re: Cards You think are Broken.   Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:19 am

Broken cards eh?

Soul Charge.


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PostSubject: Re: Cards You think are Broken.   Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:02 am

1k for each monster is expensive. it's not broken






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PostSubject: Re: Cards You think are Broken.   Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:28 pm

Broken Card: Number 54. to OP.


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PostSubject: Re: Cards You think are Broken.   Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:38 pm

bs. number 54 is harmless






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PostSubject: Re: Cards You think are Broken.   Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:47 pm

look at it's effect.


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PostSubject: Re: Cards You think are Broken.   Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:55 pm

like i've never seen the card. it's not good. useless after the materials were detached. not good atk, can easily be fucked through other means etc etc. just too hard to gather 3 lv 1 monsters for it. i would rather run law of the normal






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PostSubject: Re: Cards You think are Broken.   Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:04 pm

effect negation is popular for a reason XD

54 is not broken its just too easy to kill


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PostSubject: Re: Cards You think are Broken.   Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:07 pm

Killmatronix wrote:
like i've never seen the card. it's not good. useless after the materials were detached. not good atk, can easily be fucked through other means etc etc. just too hard to gather 3 lv 1 monsters for it. i would rather run law of the normal

Would it surprise you if I do run it in Law of the Normal?




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PostSubject: Re: Cards You think are Broken.   Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:06 pm

it's my personal opinion. deal with it.


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PostSubject: Re: Cards You think are Broken.   Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:55 pm

Killmatronix wrote:
1k for each monster is expensive. it's not broken

Not on its own no, but the things you can do with it make it so.


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PostSubject: Re: Cards You think are Broken.   Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:06 pm

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Killmatronix wrote:
1k for each monster is expensive. it's not broken

Not on its own no, but the things you can do with it make it so.

Nottu is correct. This card is brokenish, and very much annoying Neutral . At least reborn cant bring back multiple monsters....






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PostSubject: Re: Cards You think are Broken.   Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:19 pm

But Reborn doesn't make you pay 1k lifepoints. Reborn is a simple return of some monster to the field. Soul Charge is a much better version with a lot bigger drawbacks. Unless you have enough lifepoints to get by, using this card is utterly bad. Drawing into this late game when you don't have more than 2000 lifepoints would be the same concept as drawing into Solemn when your lifepoints are like 1500. Not to mention the lack of battle phase. I really don't see this as broken as people think.




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PostSubject: Re: Cards You think are Broken.   Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:40 pm

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But Reborn doesn't make you pay 1k lifepoints. Reborn is a simple return of some monster to the field. Soul Charge is a much better version with a lot bigger drawbacks. Unless you have enough lifepoints to get by, using this card is utterly bad. Drawing into this late game when you don't have more than 2000 lifepoints would be the same concept as drawing into Solemn when your lifepoints are like 1500. Not to mention the lack of battle phase. I really don't see this as broken as people think.

True, but at least Reborn can't set up as many plays as this can. Even though, I do admit, It sets up a ton of them Very Happy .

Imagine if you could battle phase though....






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PostSubject: Re: Cards You think are Broken.   Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:05 am

If you were allowed to battle phase THEN I'd say this card is broken. Hell you just need to bring back a few vanilla beaters and you would have game at that point. This card can setup good plays nonetheless. If you're desperate to get rid of something like Beelze and neither you or your opponent have many good plays left at least this can be a 1 card Silent Honor Ark. That's not to say that this wouldn't be as easy to Torrential Tribute. I mean this card can also setup Quasar in place of Rekindling now in Lavals but you're talking 4-5k lifepoints for it. I just don't see how this card is worth it.




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PostSubject: Re: Cards You think are Broken.   Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:16 am

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If you were allowed to battle phase THEN I'd say this card is broken. Hell you just need to bring back a few vanilla beaters and you would have game at that point. This card can setup good plays nonetheless. If you're desperate to get rid of something like Beelze and neither you or your opponent have many good plays left at least this can be a 1 card Silent Honor Ark. That's not to say that this wouldn't be as easy to Torrential Tribute. I mean this card can also setup Quasar in place of Rekindling now in Lavals but you're talking 4-5k lifepoints for it. I just don't see how this card is worth it.

Decks that can skip 1 turn of a battle phase can use it to simply keep field advantage. Also, if you have quasar and your opponent has nothing good enough to stop you, this card helps a ton for that. Torrential is limited, so it's not a good idea for this really....(But i always seem to have it around when they draw into it.)






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PostSubject: Re: Cards You think are Broken.   Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:27 am

Tbh I think Torrential Tribute is going to come off the limited list. That or people are gonna start maining Needle Ceiling. Between all of this mass summoning going around between this card and Pendulum summoning I can see cards like that becoming common. It helps setup a field sure, but is it worth half your lp or more? I really don't think so. If that plan fails you have NOTHING to fall back on prob + your lifepoints will be significantly drained.




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PostSubject: Re: Cards You think are Broken.   Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:48 am

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Tbh I think Torrential Tribute is going to come off the limited list. That or people are gonna start maining Needle Ceiling. Between all of this mass summoning going around between this card and Pendulum summoning I can see cards like that becoming common. It helps setup a field sure, but is it worth half your lp or more? I really don't think so. If that plan fails you have NOTHING to fall back on prob + your lifepoints will be significantly drained.

Same, we are gonna need it eventually. OR we will have to lock down Special summons. Which.... I doubt will happen Very Happy .






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